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Ep. 112 - Unpacking The Group Seven Hype And The Labels We Wear

• Kevin Anderson

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A viral question—Are you Group Seven?—sparked a deeper look at identity, intention, and the stories we tell about ourselves online. We break down the seven archetypes making the rounds—comfort walkers, image seekers, pleasers and fixers, healers, questioners, watchers, and the much-hyped cycle breakers—and ask what they reveal about our real habits, not just our aspirations.

We explore why “cycle breaker” captures so much attention and how the poetic language of resurrection and ancestral healing can hide the tough, daily work of boundaries, therapy, and accountability. From there, we examine the quieter roles: the watcher who protects peace by observing, the pleaser who serves at a personal cost, the questioner who builds a second education outside the family script, and the image seeker who navigates belonging, judgment, and validation in a public digital square. The nuance matters. Chaos and ease are lived along a spectrum, and the same label can mean different things in different homes, jobs, and seasons of life.

Rather than treating labels as destinies, we frame them as lenses for honest inventory. Which role serves you today? Where is the gap between what you intend and what you consistently do? If you claim “cycle breaker,” what pattern ends, what support do you need, and how will you sustain the change when it gets hard? If you lean watcher, when do you step in? If you please, where do you set boundaries? By the end, you’ll have a grounded, practical way to use a trend as a tool for growth—not a cage. If this conversation challenged your assumptions or gave you a new lens, follow the show, share it with a friend, and tell us which label actually fits you right now.

SPEAKER_00:

Hello and welcome to Clean Your Fucking House, bitch, with Nancy, Kevin, and Lou. In our program, we get real about the challenges of life and living. Your mind is the most powerful tool you have to ensure you are on your desired path for success and satisfaction. Yet, from the day you are born, you gradually and subconsciously fill it with tons of useless shit that gets in your way. Why is that? How can you clean that mess up? We'll show you how. Get ready to clean your fucking house. Today, Nancy and I will be your host. Kevin is on vacation, taking uh probably a much needed vacation, if uh Nancy and I can say so. Has a lot going on right now, and we are gonna be a duo. We'd like to ask you all a question. Are you group seven? If you do not know what I am asking or what I'm talking about, more if depending on your generation, you probably know more about this than me, but I'll share that in my observations on certain media, social media platforms, I've been seeing this whole thing about group seven. Are you group seven? Are you group seven? And everyone thinking that they're group seven. And at first, my thought was well, is that a flight boarding group? Like, are you zone two, group seven, group three, whatever the case may be? And lo and behold, it was all about something else. Quite frankly, I'm still doing a little bit more research on it to figure out if there's anything more to it. But Nance and I thought we'd kind of share a couple of thoughts with you and really go through all of the different groups that purport to be part of this entire group seven world. I so Nancy, allow me to um let's by title.

SPEAKER_01:

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, okay, thank you. I so let me go through each one of these. I'll just give the titles for now, and then we can probably talk a little bit more about each one as we go through. But group one are the comfort walkers, group two are the image seekers. Certainly quite a bit of that on social media. Group three, the pleasers and fixers. Group four are the healers, group five are the questioners, group six are the watchers, not in a dirty way, just the watchers.

SPEAKER_01:

Take it then.

SPEAKER_00:

And group seven is considered the rarest path, the cycle breakers. And Nancy, maybe maybe I should read the description of that one only because that seems to be the focus of this, perhaps.

SPEAKER_01:

Do do read the description, but I'm gonna preface it that it the uh the cycle breaker says it's the rarest form. You just said that. Uh-huh. So read the description. Let's let's hear about cycle breakers.

SPEAKER_00:

A cycle breaker is they carry generational weight on their backs, born into chaos, betrayal, abandonment, and family wounds. They lose everyone before they find themselves. They do not wake up, they resurrect. Their mission is to end ancestral patterns, to birth new lineage paths, to stand alone until they remember their power, to return later to guide others through the fires they survived. They are not chosen because they are special, they are chosen because they said yes when others said I can't. Now, as Nancy pointed out, and I shared a little while ago, it it states it's the rarest path. I'm not sure if rare is one percent, two percent, half a percent, but it sounds like everyone really be?

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, you when you read the title, right, and you think the cycle breaker, it feels like that's what's cool to be. I want to be a cycle breaker, I want to break the routine, I want to, you know, keep people out of normalcy and conformacy. But to be, to really be that sounds like a lot of work.

SPEAKER_00:

And is it something maybe we'd like to be versus we actually are? I'm sure some of this could be someone feels they're like a cycle breaker, otherwise may know of a cycle breaker and admire that person.

SPEAKER_01:

Sure. And want to be more like that. You know, here I am going right back to something we've talked about many times before, and that is this um oh my gosh, intentions. I couldn't get that word out of my mouth. Intentions versus the behavior gap. And this is a workshop you and I have have explored multiple times, and the intentions I have in my brain about who I am, as a number seven, even maybe, right? Are one thing and then what actions do I consistently take to be that? And so there's a lot. This this makes me think about that, that there could be all these intentions in people's minds about wanting to be that, and then how do we show up as that?

SPEAKER_00:

And certainly there could be aspects of this that people connect to. I certainly the part about born that second sentence, born into chaos. Who doesn't feel like they're born into chaos? I mean, everyone, I'm sure, has a story about some chaotic episode from the moment they were born that they remember, and certainly some are much more chaotic than others, but I think I had a was born into in a weird way, like I my family has its own stuff.

SPEAKER_01:

I feel like I was born into calmness. There was some sort of intention and control or whatever in place. Um so yeah, I didn't I didn't ever feel that born into it.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, I I think as a child, I I'm not gonna say I was born in a chaos. Uh now, looking back, there were certainly chaotic moments, and I vividly remember certain chaotic experiences. But as we get older and people become, and the people around us, some become more open and transparent, and we hear about others' chaos, we go, well, damn, here I thought my family was chaotic. There's certainly others that can be more, and I think we realize pretty much.

SPEAKER_01:

Everyone's family is in the end, you're right. In the end, you're absolutely right. Everyone's family has has some chaos. We were born into it per se, but we might not have felt it till different phases in life.

SPEAKER_00:

And then again, is what defines a certain experience to cross the line into chaos, eh? In other words, there could be experiences that are just stressful and make us anxious, and we remember as children because they were uh I'll I'll use the word traumatic, even if that may not be the proper word, but something we remember. And then it's like, but you know what? It still doesn't cross over into a a cycle breaker type of group.

SPEAKER_01:

Right, right. Because to break those routines is it takes consistent actions from more than one person, I guess. It takes a lot.

SPEAKER_00:

Right.

SPEAKER_01:

Um, so thinking about this cycle breaker being an idea that people want to be going back to the names of the others, a comfort walker, an image seeker, a pleaser, we've all heard of the fixers, you know, a healer, a questioner, a watcher. It sounds like in my mind, I don't know, which one do you think is the sounds the easiest? I think maybe the comfort walker sounds the easiest without understanding the reason for the name.

SPEAKER_00:

I I agree. I'm not sure if these go in in that order, like from most calm to most chaotic, but it almost kind of feels like that. However, that it says right uh out of the gate, a comfort walker is born into ease. I think similar to what we talked about with the born into chaos, I think born into ease may have a similar way of viewing that. What I mean by that is some people may think they're born into ease, and maybe it's not as ease or easy as it otherwise may be for other people. There's again degrees of that.

SPEAKER_01:

But sure, it makes me think of a silver spoon, right? And and those that are born into um wealth, you know, we assume from the outside that that's easy and it just may not be.

SPEAKER_00:

Mm-hmm. And you do hear stories more often in current times and in in years past about even families of those types of backgrounds, powerful, rich, whatever the case may be, where they have some significant struggles, you know, whether it's alcohol or drug abuse or whatever the case may be. There's every now and then you'll hear stories like that. But uh that it certainly sounds like that, that that is the easiest one, the comfort walker. I certainly do not feel like I'm a comfort walker. I'll I know that right now.

SPEAKER_01:

I wouldn't say I was born into ease. Calm, I just said I thought it was calm, but I wouldn't say it was easy.

SPEAKER_00:

And the rest of that, they're you know, peace, calm, no challenge, focus on material life. That kind of gets back a little bit to what you just shared about probably born into wealth, stability, family traditions. I mean, that literally to me almost feels like it's a utopian environment where you're born into this environment that's completely peaceful, calm, and everyone's doing well and no problems at all, no disruption, nothing going on, and they're simply having a journey through life without any problem. That's not realistic, that's gotta be just as rare, right?

SPEAKER_01:

It's not realistic either. And so we've already qualified one and seven as ah, difficult.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Again, because we both have to be. Oh, sorry, because we've only given our listeners titles and then we're expanding a little bit, like so for the others two through six, then where would you just by title alone, where would you gravitate towards for you?

SPEAKER_00:

I think I am group three, the pleaser and the fixer.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, I wouldn't have called you out for that, but share the what it is and tell us why.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, I actually it in uh well, uh, how about if I read it too to give our listeners a little bit more context in terms of what the pleaser and fixer, I guess, definition is the helpers who lose themselves and others, they step into toxic love, unstable family systems, constantly trying to heal people. They face trauma and inner darkness. Well, maybe this could be a little too much, but still depression, addiction, abuse, and they face it head on. They do not awaken the world, they fight to awaken themselves. I I I think I certainly can relate to that simply by the title, because I've always been one to want to help others, even at my own expense, my own cost, whatever that may be. I've always felt like I've never thought of myself as an empath or an empathetic person, quite frankly, but I almost feel like that's there because there's just been, you know, literally, you know, the the starving children in Africa commercials, I would ball over those many years ago. I mean, that was just always good to me. And things like that, where I would see homeless people on the street, and it would just break my heart. I mean, there were so many examples of things that I recall and I remember. And even my choice of say career, though not initially was based on that, it certainly was one of them. What I mean by that is, and I think our listeners know I have a math background, statistics, all that numbers was my thing. I chose a career in insurance primarily because I didn't want to be homeless.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm like, nobody does.

SPEAKER_00:

You gotta make some money. And you know, I'm also a pragmatist in in that regard. So I chose a career that allowed me to at least be financially secure. I would have loved to have been a teacher. That was the first thing I thought of with regard to my passion for math. Then of course, I look at what they make. I'm like, there's no way it wouldn't work.

SPEAKER_01:

Right. Well, we have to appreciate those who do.

SPEAKER_00:

Do you think that teacher role fe fits somewhat into that healer and fixer because you can take the underdogs and help them learn the material and actually Yeah, and it's interesting you say that because it also comes from that perspective, meaning rather than just saying, I want to be a teacher because I want to teach a classroom of, say, 30 kids, whatever the case may be, I'd like to make, I'd like to make sure that, and I'm gonna use a cliche here that's already been used, but I'll use it anyway. No kid is left behind. I want to make sure that even that one child or two children who are the slow learners, they struggle, they need extra help, they are not going to be behind and they're gonna be up there as well. I want to help everyone, basically, is where it came from. And a lot of what I did outside of work and family relates to that. I was a big brother with the Big Brother program for many years. I used to volunteer at children's shelters, and more so than just any children's shelter, this uh particular shelter that was uh part of a program when I worked at a company in Florida many years ago uh through the United Way program. They partnered with different local charities, and it was a shelter for abused and abandoned children. Again, my heart kind of went not again to to someone who just felt like they needed it the most. And I literally can look back at my life and go, you know, there's so many experiences I can point to that make me feel again like a pleaser and fixer. Some of these things don't completely line up, but I think in terms of the majority, okay, that's right. Full.

SPEAKER_01:

And you've certainly taken actions to live that. Um I'm I'm curious about the description for the watchers, but also I will say I'd like to be a questioner because I always in hindsight, I wish that I lived my life more inquisitively. I was taught to accept things, I accepted things, and then later in life, I'm like, what?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, what the fuck was that?

SPEAKER_01:

So um so I'm curious about both, but I feel like I'm more of a watcher. What does that say?

SPEAKER_00:

The watcher, fully awake but silent, they see truth, understand energy, and observe humanity from a distance. They protect peace, avoid noise, and rarely engage in the battle to change anything. It sounds like somebody who does see a lot out there of the uh in quotes the truth, yeah, but I guess just sits back and as the title states, kind of watches how things unfold rather than take action on them. That's an interesting one. You see yourself as a watcher?

SPEAKER_01:

I do still in multiple ways because I can I can be neutral in times of angst amongst groups of people who have opposing opinions. I grew up in a household with six kids and being number five of six, I did watch what was happening around me and learn how to maneuver in that environment and what to do and what not to do. Um, you know, where was I gonna get in trouble for sure? Yeah. And where is it okay to reach out and experiment or explore? Like I I you know did things, I didn't let that limit me, but also it helped me set the guardrails.

SPEAKER_00:

Now, you was your family dynamic one of that allowed you to get here, or was this something that really manifested as you went out into the world and discovered things, went to college, whatever the case may be? Because I know that's a big eye-opener for a lot of people.

SPEAKER_01:

You mean as a watcher?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, because you did mention you accepted, uh, I forgot how you phrase it, but you accepted things you were taught. Almost sounds like you also maybe respected authority and just did what you were told, all that kind of stuff. And most of us did, you know, as children, we do. But the whole part about what we were taught, accepting it as the truth and and not questioning, once we get out there in the world and learn more about other people, other cultures, other geographies, college being a great example. The once you move out of the house and you're off to college and you meet different people. What the hell? My family was nuts. They didn't teach me the right stuff.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, sort of how I felt that funny that what they thought maybe was going to be useful to you. And then when you got out there, you needed all kinds of other skills. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And even about other things, because my family, for the most part, were fairly sheltered, stayed where we were in terms of moving around. In other words, it was just um a a very kind of bubble of uh of an growing up experience. And I'm like, oh my God, you know. Yeah, from every dynamic, you know, religion.

SPEAKER_01:

I've shared this before too, but as you say that, that also for me reaffirms my feeling of being a watcher in that we did move a lot in my growing up years and a number of states that I lived in, and a couple houses in more than one state. Um, so I was in new environments all the time, and I had to acclimate and learn my way. And so obviously, there's observation there, watch and learn before you just jump in. I wasn't the loud and vocal one. I'm here.

SPEAKER_00:

Did those new environments teach you something that you thought was either true or a certain way and was different once you got to that new environment?

SPEAKER_01:

In hindsight, sure. But at the time, it was just like, okay, I'm embracing all this newness. So not with awareness, I think, when I was young.

SPEAKER_00:

You know, as I'm looking through these, I certainly feel like, okay, I'm not 100%, say, the group three. The questioners, I think all of us, Kevin, you and I all have a degree of questioning. Now, arguably, Kevin could be 98%.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I would say now, right? And I think Kevin would even say the where we are and and the reasons we got to where we are in our life now includes more questioning. And We love and value that because we have more curiosity, but we didn't in earlier phases in our lives and we met different experiences as a result. So now we we feel grateful to have this perspective and this ability to kind of expand our own awareness in lots of ways, I think.

SPEAKER_00:

And the resources to do it, I guess, with the internet and different platforms for try. Yeah. And I know this is a a discussion topic that we've had several times where the internet has both the good and bad parts of it, where it's a great resource for getting answers, but then trying to sift through which ones are really the answer. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

What's real and what's not, what's the context around it?

SPEAKER_00:

But yeah, I I have a degree of that myself, the questioning.

SPEAKER_01:

For sure. Oh, absolutely. Even though you're always reminding us that you're a finite guy.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

The answer is the answer, the equation. Yes.

SPEAKER_00:

Hell yeah. One plus one is always two. I remember some coming back and saying, no, sometimes one plus one is 11. I'm like, smart ass.

SPEAKER_01:

I want to share that when Lou shared this with Kevin and I recently. Like I read through it all and I felt like I'm a little bit of everything at different times in my life. And how so? Um, well, I just don't think we're all one way all the time. And we might lean towards one thing more than another, or have reasons that we felt like like we both happened to mention in our growing up years, we felt the environment we were in at that time was one way, and where we are now in life is another way. And I think because we're always changing in life and the circumstances around people are changing in life, that you might be a healer at one point and a watcher at another point, and you might actually be a cycle breaker, you know, at points in life where you're making things change in the environment around you and it feels really good. You're kicking ass. But then you might actually just need some time as a comfort walker to figure some stuff out. So I feel like it feels like we want to identify ourselves sometimes, and maybe that we limit ourselves by doing that too.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, that's an excellent point. Uh, and makes perfect sense, is not I would not think that we would ever be one of these categories or even a 50-50, 30-70. It's probably a little a little of each at different points in our day, in our week, in our lives.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

In in the decades of uh, like you shared, as we're growing up, very different than where we're at now, and makes perfect sense. Number two, the image seekers. That's an interesting one. I mean, just the title alone, I just think do you know what word comes well?

SPEAKER_01:

The description I think is gonna fit what we think. So tell us, tell us.

SPEAKER_00:

Influencer. That's a word that comes to mind when I think of image seeker.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm like, uh, you know, not that there's anything wrong with that. It just seems like that's uh I don't know.

SPEAKER_01:

And hopefully people can be that at some points in times. Like maybe it's okay to be an image seeker because we want to influence others and be recognized for what we contribute, but we don't want to be that all the time. Like nobody likes that person that is that all the time.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, based on the description, it and I'll read it for our listeners real quick here. Their life revolves around acceptance, reputation, and belonging. They follow the crowd, fear judgment, and crave validation. Their lessons are about identity and peer pressure, not soul depth. That entire definition feels more on the negative side than a positive side to me.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, I was gonna say, ooh, maybe that's me in some of my days, you know, because I do have days where I fear judgment and I just need somebody to give me a little positive feedback. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00:

That's a good point. That yeah, that I mean, the following the crowd is one thing, but as we shared early on in this entire discussion, if not before we started recording, as we were just talking about this, is what uh I've noticed myself from just observing this whole group seven phenomenon on social media is everyone thinks they're group seven, they follow the crowd, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

And I'm like, well, maybe they're really image seekers and not the the uh cycle breakers, but they exactly I think I think we would all be a little bit surprised, and so labeling and conforming is maybe not as ideal a way of being as yeah as it sounds, right? Like on TikTok, it feels like a cool thing, oh and how fun it is and to join a group, but be cautious, I guess, of the group that you join and what that brings back to you or what it what energy that gives out to others. Like that we want to always have that awareness of what's happening around us.

SPEAKER_00:

I I am curious too. If I was to leave a comment on any of the videos or posts that I see about this, if I was to say, well, you know, I feel I'm really more of a group three than I am a group seven, if all of a sudden I'd get responses like loser or something.

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, hey, go experiment.

SPEAKER_00:

I I'm yeah, I feel like doing a social experiment.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, doing a social experiment, and then we could talk about it next time. Um, I think I think it just feels like this was fun to talk about because it is nice to take a moment to self-reflect and it just gives perspective for all of us to think about where we are in life at the moment. And is that where we want to be? Is are we wearing a label that aligns with us, or are we wearing a label that we wish reflected something different? And do we want to wear a label?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, good point. Do we want to wear one at all? And end of the day, this may really just be a fun exercise. What what I'm observing, and not anything really all that serious. Yeah. And and I'm really overthinking it myself and that, oh my God, you know, all these people think they're seven. Are they are they crazy? You know, it's the rarest one everyone can, but you know, end of the day, it could just be where it's a little fun thing and everyone's playing along, which is absolutely so let's let's offer that.

SPEAKER_01:

That's our I guess that's what we'd offer as our um as our summation of the idea of even introducing the topic is take it as a fun exercise and play with it. We didn't really give you all the details, but I bet if you search it up online, what's it called? Group seven.

SPEAKER_00:

Group seven.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Yep, do a search on group seven or are you group seven, see what you come up with.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Awesome. Okay, well, this Nancy, this was really fun talking about this topic. I enjoyed it very much. I hope you, our listeners, enjoyed it as well. And we hope to see you again on our next episode. Bye for now.