Clean Your F*cking House B*tch
Our minds are like houses. When they're new, they're empty. As we live our lives we acquire treasures that eventually turn into shit that creates clutter. Some of this stuff is useful, while some of it is simply junk which just creates obstacles for us. What if we could eliminate the nonsense we don't need, and create more room for useful things? Join us on this podcast where we discuss removing what we don't need, implementing beneficial changes to our minds, bodies and souls, to create a life of abundance and fulfillment.
Clean Your F*cking House B*tch
Ep. 110 - Prioritizing Self-Care with Meral Doe Renee Jones
Meral Doe Renée Jones is a multi-faceted leader—author, publisher, conscious business coach and artist —who is committed to co-creating a more peaceful and regenerative world. She serves as CFO of Level Up Cowork & Creation Center in Pueblo, Colorado, where she empowers creators and entrepreneurs with spaces for collaboration, innovation, and healing. She also leads Author Catalyst Academy, helping first-time authors share their voices and transform their stories into published works.
Her books, including The Cosmic Sagas, The Sacred Feminine, and Circle of the One, illuminate themes of self-appreciation, community healing, and mental wellness for both youth and adults. Inspired daily by her husband Garrett and their three children—Leonidas, Zelda, and Archer—Meral carries her passion into every project, weaving together spirituality, creativity, and social impact. Listen to the end for some inspiring spoken word poetry on how to find balance in ourselves in the ever changing world.
Hello and welcome to Clean your Fucking House, bitch, with Nancy, kevin and Lou. In our program we get real about the challenges of life and living. Your mind is the most powerful tool you have to ensure you are on your desired path for success and satisfaction. Yet from the day you are born, you gradually and subconsciously fill it with tons of useless shit that gets in your way. Why is that? How can you clean that mess up? We'll show you how. Get ready to clean your fucking house.
Speaker 2:Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode. As we mentioned in our last episode, when Lou abandoned us, as he is abandoning this intro right now, even though he's our designated intro guy, we have a special guest. We're super excited to have her Meral Jones welcome.
Speaker 3:Hey, thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, of course, thanks for joining us. For any of our listeners that aren't familiar with you or your work, do you want to share a little bit about yourself and what it is that you do? You mentioned helping others, helping the collective, so wherever you want to take that, go ahead and introduce yourself.
Speaker 3:Yeah, thanks everyone for coming here today for a conscious conversation. My name is Meral Do-Renee Jones and I'm grateful to be here. I am from Colorado and I'm a community leader and a change agent for mental health and, as a mom of three, really grateful to reach whoever needs to hear this today with really a message we're just going to let flow in conversation. But one thing we talked about before going live was just how we can impact so many people with just finding peace in ourselves and focusing on ourselves. So, yeah, I am a business coach and publisher and a entrepreneur owner investor in several different businesses, so excited to see where this conversation goes today. Owner, investor in several different businesses.
Speaker 2:So excited to see where this conversation goes today. Awesome, thank you. I love conscious conversation. I love how you threw that out there right away.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I just sprinkled that in that's. I feel like that's probably one of the keys for, and solutions for, the world right now 100% agree.
Speaker 2:Something that came up right away for me when you were introducing yourself is talking about like focusing on ourselves right so that we can help others. And we Nancy Lou and I talk. We've talked a lot about how we need to prioritize ourselves so that we can get ourselves to a place to be able to help others. I know personally, if I'm beaten down by the world, like I am no good for myself, I'm no good for anybody around me, any of my loved ones. So can you dive a little deeper on that and the importance of prioritizing ourselves, not in a selfish way, really, but just an awareness way?
Speaker 3:I love how you said that I, as a mom, share a lot of content online and just little tips, which is why I love what you guys are doing Practical things for specifically moms. But anyone could take the advice of. What I say is literally like filling up your cup to start your day, and for me, just getting into something practical I do is getting up early. Sometimes I get up ridiculously early and then I fall back asleep, but just so I get that sacred whether it's 15 or 30 or 45 minutes sometimes more if I'm lucky of silent time and that's what fills my cup up, whether I'm just sitting and meditating or reading, or just stretching, doing yoga on the floor next to my bed while my baby's sleeping in the bassinet next to the bed, just whatever it looks like or creating that space with my partner. I'm so grateful and thankful to have a really supportive partner to say, hey, I need 30 minutes right now. I like, what can I do? What can we do to create that? And I know that's easier to have been done, especially for some that might find it hard to ask for what they need. I know I was there years ago. So, yeah, I mean that's a big question. But I would say, coming from myself first, and then I'll ripple it out to how I think that could look like. As we ripple that out for the collective Um, I've definitely gone through ebbs and flows of overdoing and finally realizing that it was from a traumatized self of like thinking I needed to do for my worth and, as I've done that through a lot of different work, realized that through a lot of different work I've been able to realize like, hey, whatever needs to be done will be done.
Speaker 3:It's an affirmation. I work a lot with affirmations and have put out a few books with affirmations and that's one of my favorites that I always offer to all the teams I'm a part of is guys, I know we just went through a lot, but whatever needs to be done will be done, and I offer the affirmation. Now my team members reflect it back to me sometimes and I'm like, okay, what's our intention? So, instead of the to-do list, first, what's our to-be list? First, it's our to-be list, first, it's our intention.
Speaker 3:And then I don't even say three things, I'm like what are just two things? Because to me sometimes three to-dos is almost too much, depending on my day being, you know, working remotely with different teams and also having three kids. So I'm like all right, if I can complete these two things, that's great, and if I don't, I'm still like grateful, that's great, and if I don't, I'm still like grateful. And to not define my worth based on a to-do list I think that's that could be summarize your whole question, and then that ripples out so much to what that would look like for the collective of like um, worrying about ourself versus all this, like us versus them stuff, because a lot of that is simply rooted in a sense of like, whatever the other them is doing, that's wrong, and then a lack of focus on myself, and so that's kind of a small and big answer to your, to your reflection, but there's really no answer. I think the answer is different for everyone yeah, there's so much in there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was writing down questions. I don't want to go ahead, nancy, because I could probably ask away this whole time allows you to then be present.
Speaker 4:So you know, we talk about that all the time, but this whole idea of not overdoing your resilience building like letting go gives the energy to do what needs to be done, and self-care is where resilience comes from, and if there's anything else that we really need in the world, it's to be able to start over again the next hour, the next day.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, self-carecare, give yourself resilience how do you get to the point of having the self-awareness to know that you need a half hour, that you need your morning time, because we're living in a perpetual state of reactivity, always doing, doing, doing which, by the way, you mentioning like not needing to be doing shit, to like feel like you're bringing value? That is something that I'm definitely trying to work through, but it takes a certain level of awareness to even identify Like I need something, I need to fill my cup. I love that expression. So how do you get to that point where you get to know yourself well enough to know that, like something feels a little bit off or whatever, before things kind of snowball, like out of control?
Speaker 3:right, oh yeah, it was like a month or two ago. Um, it's great because you can one surround yourself with people who are going to help. You see that if you don't see it first or not willing to admit it. So I'll answer your question of, like, how do you, how do I? I, for most of my 20s, was with my first husband and we had our son together and just truly an amazing human. And finally, you know, once my son was born, was able to admit that it was an abusive relationship on all levels, despite I had lied to my dad about it, my family about it, and they kind of got the sense about it and I finally came clean once the baby was born, because it just was like yo, you know, be real.
Speaker 3:And again, I always view yin and yang and everything, so by no means want to paint all negativity here, because truly had a great heart and, um, think about him all the time, especially as we go to into September, because, um, and so really, uh, had myself really come to Mary, come to Jesus, come to myself moment in 2019 and 2020, both when I chose to separate from him when he passed, to really be like Whoa, like what am I willing to put up with wow like kind of um, just like actually waking up from the dream kind of moment and fast forward, um, you know, put the intentions out there, focus on self-care and self-love, and really I could go into all the things I did for that. But, um, louise Hayes is a great um, um resource as um someone who I studied, um, as well as a lot of other work that you can see me doing on on my different pages. But, uh, then, like, put out the intention of like, wow, what would, who would, who would that be? And I remember a vision board. I did. I did the Deepak Chopra abundance challenge, which I've done a bunch of times. It's you can usually find a free group going on. It's like a free thing. Just look up abundance challenge by Deepak Chopra and he has you like, draw abundance and I do a lot of things. Of course, money and all the different forms of abundance, smiley faces, like I just went wild with it. He has a whole prompt.
Speaker 3:I drew um like in uh, dirty Dancing when he does the lift of the girl. I drew just stick figure version of that of a guy holding a girl and I wrote true love and um, and I remember just writing out what would true love really look like and true support that I was not overgiving, and all the stuff that I was doing and had to admit Because, as much as I could just say, oh, I was the victim in that situation, which I was in some situations. At the same time, I was a co-creator, and that was something I had to come to face of. You know any, there's always two sides of the coin for that, and just being able to own that was a lot more empowering to me than just thinking of myself as a victim. And so, yeah, so my husband now, who's an amazing person, he adopted our son very lovingly. We had our daughter and now another son and so way fast forward to where we are now. There's a lot more steps in between, but really to know when it's too much is finding that like baseline of okay, this is like at least contentment, and of course, it's great when we can be in like joy and enthusiasm or something greater. But, yeah, my husband now so go back to when I started just lovingly, called me in, called me out, was like hey, like are you okay? And I was like, no, I'm just really overwhelmed. And so he reworked his work schedule, which both of us are business owners, um, own our own businesses, so we get to create our own schedule. So that is nice, but so that there could be just more support for me with the baby and who was just born recently he's three and a half months old and that was so helpful and instantly I was like, okay, that little bit of extra time made such a big difference.
Speaker 3:So I'd say, say number one, surrounding yourself with people, cutting people out that aren't supporting that, and that's easier said than done. That's a whole conversation. And then, of course, for yourself, like I'd say like, even if it's hard for people to be in silence at first, there's probably something there. But having silence, like even not music sometimes, which I do, like having music, but try out silence, even if it's five minutes, and I know for some that might be hard to find, but for me it's in the middle of the night and I, just when I wake up, I go to the restroom. I'll just enjoy that silence and sit and meditate, and that allows me to create this baseline, so that way when I do get overwhelmed or if I feel like I'm going in that direction, I can stop myself and do whatever I need to do. So yeah, there's no perfect answer to that, but I'd say identifying those like two to three things that fill your cup and for me it's movement every day um, and like deep breathing exercises with silence.
Speaker 4:So somewhat of an answer there those are those are, oh sorry, tangible go-tos that anyone can select right like you can just choose to separate yourself for a minute with five minutes of silence can be enough sometimes. Sometimes I don't know what you need, but someone could be done in five.
Speaker 3:And I want to say what you're saying. There is so golden, because I call it expanding time. You have to sometimes just choose and we have the power with our consciousness, I believe. I believe we actually I said it jokingly when I first discovered this phrase, but I've experimented with it through different modalities and with clients of I believe we actually slow down time and I don't know how I could ever prove this but other than my own lived experience. When we slow down our thoughts and we'll see if that's discovered one day recorded, we'll see if, like, that's discovered one day recorded but when we are like, frantically moving it was a teacher that helped me realize this, because she was trying to get to the airport one day and she told me the story that sparked the idea and was being frantic. And then she heard her voice of intuition yell down to her like hey, you're burning up time. And from that day forward, her name's Tiana Galgano. She's an amazing dream mastery coach, neuro-linguistic programming teacher, and I, ever since then I that was over 10 years ago she told me that story.
Speaker 3:I stopped using the word busy and people say, oh, you're so busy.
Speaker 3:I'm like, oh, thank you, I'm active and I don't necessarily make it a big deal if they're not really in that realm of intentionality of words, but for some people I've been told that it totally transformed their life just stopping using the word busy.
Speaker 3:And I like to say I'm closed for busyness because there's a certain energy of like the beta brainwaves, of like busy, busy, busy. And so we and a lot of the things we do with my publishing company is guide flow sessions to actually help writers, creatives and entrepreneurs get into flow state, which is alpha brainwaves. And I swear we get so much done in an hour flow session because we're intending we're taking a whole 10 to 15 minutes to meditate and set intention and then flow through different short time sessions and we expand time in each of those sessions and then take little sacred pauses to actually like breathe and stretch. And people are like I literally get so much done in those flow sessions more than like the rest of my day. So I think that we really can expand time in those little five minute pockets that you mentioned. So if that's all you got as a mom or a dad throughout the day, just savor that five minutes absolutely.
Speaker 4:Oh, you're muted.
Speaker 2:I've never heard it presented that way.
Speaker 1:I've often thought of being able to slow down time, but from that aspect of being present. So I guess slowing down your thoughts is you kind of the use of technology.
Speaker 1:I tend to be a bit of the science person on the on the team here and you know much of and I only bring that up because I, you know, a lot of what you shared has, I don't want to say defined, defined parameters, but with, I'll say, many people, we have what I'll call routines or schedules.
Speaker 1:You know what we get up, try to get up at a certain time, do a certain thing in the morning, hopefully a positive thing. You know breakfast at a certain time. It just seems to be how life kind of goes, which is fine as long as we fill our cups with positive things and actions and keep ourselves active. So my question really is now, in this ever-expanding world of technology, we have folks who like to use smartwatches that tell them when to drink water or when to move around, yep, or when to stop and take a breath. There's a bit of a balance, I'm sure that should exist, because you don't want to be so overly reliant on an electronic gizmo to tell you things that are just make common sense. So I'm curious what your thoughts are and how we can say make even either better use or otherwise, just maybe optimally use a blend of both modalities.
Speaker 3:Absolutely. Yeah, I love that you mentioned that, because in the last few years, I've definitely been experimenting with AI technology, technology in general wherever you draw that line between AI and not and my background just a quick note is I spent most of my life wanting to be an astronaut, so I interned at NASA. I have a mechanical engineering degree and a master's in industrial systems engineering, so I'm all about blending of science and spirit, whatever that looks like, and so I currently use an amazing app that helps me have digestive rest, which is basically another word for fasting, but I like the phrase digestive rest, and so it's called Simple. I freaking love it. I'm not an affiliate or anything, but I just tell people about it because it's helped me so much be accountable to like not eat at night and that just there's so much more to that whole concept of digestive rest and it's transformed my energy level and all this stuff, um, and so I love that. Um, I don't like having something on my wrist. I tried the ring or a ring and I also didn't like use it that much. I know for some people it really helps to know their heart rate and everything. I can just kind of. I just personally don't use those devices, but I know they're really helpful for people like family members and friends, um and, and I see it as like a perfect blending, and there'll be, like, people who are in different rounds, so there's not one right or wrong way to go. So I wrote about it in a co-authorship called the Sacred Feminine and I called it Visions for a Regenerative Future, and I drew this little diagram. I actually have a five minute version of it, a video of it, and it shows like there's different realms where people will be. So some people, like they're going off grid, they're living in nature and like that's cool, that's what works for them.
Speaker 3:There's some of us who, like, do a combination which is where I'm at, where, like, I love unplugging, but with where I'm at in life and who I love to be connected to, to my family. It cross seas in other states and the teams I'm a part of that are all interstate. I use technology and I'm grateful for it. Like I'm floored all the time, like every time I FaceTime my family in Turkey. I remember how hard it used to be when I was little to do calling cards, to call them, and then before that it was letters. You know that would have got lost. So I'm, you know that would have got lost. So I'm definitely pro-technology, with intention and consciousness. And then there's some that like really want to go full force and like really have technology be part of everything and like even maybe embed chips in their brain and everything. And I'm not even necessarily against that I don't. I personally don't see myself doing that, but I mean, it's not that different than having a phone tied to your hand. And so I would say, like really all our experiment on earth, like at a spiritual level, is just to see all these edges we can come up against. So I'm very much in the Zen perspective of like there's no right or wrong, it's all just experiments and experience. And so I definitely have been so grateful for being able to use AI to be like hey, help me create this little proposal to my team for my co-work center, which I have a co-work center in Pueblo, colorado called Level Up, and we have been able to use that in our team. When we started our business, when AI started taking off, it's been such a night and day difference between other things I've been a part of before being able to have a business plan get created for us that we then try, and then we iterate and iterate and iterate.
Speaker 3:Going back to your question about health and using it to help you remind yourself for self-care. I'm totally pro that, especially if you're going to have a phone anyway, might as well use it to help you be better, versus like doom scrolling, um and so, yeah, I absolutely, I think. And then and then, like for me, I was telling my friend, I just love to plug my phone in in my room and forget about it for a few hours. I've been times where I'm like, hey, I'm going to be off grid for a week or a day. A day is more realistic for me these days, but that is really great because then I come back to it with gratitude and I use it as a tool versus something I have to have. But yeah, I would definitely say, finding apps that really leave you feeling like they're serving you versus like taking your life force, is the key. And then just erase apps from your home screen, just like you erase or just like you clean your house.
Speaker 4:Right, but the same application. Well, how did you describe?
Speaker 3:fasting. I call it digestive rest. That just increased me.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and the idea of what you're talking about with technology is the same with food, right, if you can't stop eating it, there's detrimental effects, so you have to make a choice. And the same with technology. And we need food. We got to have food, we can enjoy food, but there's also limits and we have to learn to mindfully choose. So having awareness to that and building connection to it, making choices Powerful Wow. And you said okay. So that makes me think back to you shared a book before we started recording, and I don't remember the author, but the book was Power Versus Force. Oh yeah, that's right. Thanks for remembering that. Well, I love the title. So Power Versus Force to me means a lot. But what inspired you to share that today and what's meaningful in there?
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's been coming up. So I feel like, and I just got what I call sore shrivels or chills just now. So so I feel like and I just got what I call sore shrivels or chills just now. So it's an important conversation. It's come up in many independent conversations recently and it has ever since I found the book, but it's by Dr David Hawkins, power Versus Wars, and you can look up Power Versus Wars map of consciousness and bam, it should pop up for you and it's. There's so much. But what I specifically brought up is something that you'd have to maybe dig a little deeper to find. I'll be doing a series on it soon with with level up, um, where one person can offset hundreds of thousands of people. One person who is vibrating at a certain frequency and there's all the numbers in his studies will actually help offset people who are maybe stuck in the lower, lower like emotional states. That's the simple version and that's just so. It brings me so much peace. I've.
Speaker 3:One of my practical tips is I have started to train my algorithms on social media to only give me empowering content, and there's different ways to do that. You can just search how to like retrain your algorithm. So I've stopped getting all doomy news. That doesn't mean I'm like trying to avoid what's happening in the world. I do think everything that's challenging the world is happening. It's happening for a reason, so that brings me peace in a weird way, but also the fact that I don't have to see it. All I have to do is hold that peace in myself and send prayers when I do hear those things about the news and what's going on and challenging things that are going on. And I do believe like that's all connected to what I see as a power of prayer as well, but that we are all a connected organism, just remembering that we are in this together. And so, to conclude, that share is just the power of meditating and grounding in ourself, versus like feeling like we have to just constantly be sharing about like what I, what I, where I used to be, which was like, like activism, which I love I'm now shifting into what I call subtle activism versus like, oh, I got to just call out all these bad things in the world and in a way, I'm affirming that that bad thing Again. If anyone's in this place, that might just be where they need to be again. If anyone's in this place, that might just be where they need to be. But I realized like in a way, I was like anchoring those bad things into the world in a way. As I started to become more aware and as I pulled back I was like, well, I of course don't want those bad things Like.
Speaker 3:One example is like trafficking. That really was hard for me for the longest time and now I realize all I can do is be the best mom I can for my kids and the students I come across and holding that prayer and intention for that world where that has dissolved, and maybe even our lifetime. I've written books where I dream that future, sci-fi books where we dream that future where we have ended the concept of suicide, ended the concept of abuse and trafficking. So I can do that by putting those like stories out there that are just pining for different timelines for humanity. And so, yeah, that's why I wanted to bring it up is like I love the title of your guys' podcast because it's like at the most basic level, like when you feel overwhelmed.
Speaker 3:Another practical tips like clear a counter, you know, focus on you If you don't have a house. Like visualize your house, you know you don't have a place to live, if you're homeless and you're hearing this like, okay, well, what do you want? Focus on what you want versus what you don't want. So I think that's what it comes down to, and then for the planet too, if you're dreaming at that level, if you hate what you're seeing, that's awesome, cause you truly, um, you're embodying that beautiful, um human that wants something better. But just know that if, by overly focusing on how bad it is, we could be anchoring it. So instead, love yourself and visualize that more beautiful world Our hearts know as possible, which is the quote from Charles Eisenstein. There's an awesome author as well.
Speaker 4:Thanks we're all like. All right, we're aligned, we're like we I'm so comfortable in this.
Speaker 3:There's a reason we're talking. I appreciate you all we appreciate you too.
Speaker 2:No, that's all great, you um oh sorry, were you about to?
Speaker 1:I was go ahead. I'm like, oh no, that's all great, you um. Oh sorry, were you about to?
Speaker 2:I was go ahead. I'm like, I'm trying to like, I'm trying to be.
Speaker 1:I thought I saw you go, but then you pulled, so I'm like okay, well, I think you mentioned to us that you are into poetry. Is that one of your passions?
Speaker 3:yeah, oh, absolutely yeah. I love that you're going in this vibe. So, yes, spoken word um all of that and improv, so I'll just go right now.
Speaker 1:But please do. I mean because I'd love to hear. Um, I'll be honest, I am not um intimately familiar with a lot of poets and you know the the poetry world, but I'm always, when I do hear it, it's just like hypnotic and mesmerizing to me. It's like such an experience. So I am curious to hear your favorite poet, your favorite poem, maybe even recite one. Whatever works for you, I would love that.
Speaker 3:I just I love, I love that, thanks Lou. I would love that. I just I love, I love that, thanks Lou. Well, there's one that is one I've kind of gotten known for in my communities, especially in Pueblo, colorado, where I just moved from. So I'm in this big like upheaval myself of transplanting myself for the first time. So it's been a very poetic time for me as well.
Speaker 3:So I have some poems that aren't shared I'm not sharing it that have helped me, cause when we have my family and I went from Colorado to Oklahoma, where I am now, and I was born and raised in Colorado, so, um, going open mics, now a lot of people be like, can you do untold history? And so I'll do untold history because it um, really it shows exactly that growth process for me of transmuting that anger and honoring that anger. So by no means am I saying we need to like, I'd be like, oh, there's no bad in the world, let's just all be kumbaya. It's like this divine neutrality, as I call it, of being in the center of the yin yang, symbol of like there's good in the bad and bad in the good and we can just declare it how we want to be. So I'll just jump right in. This one is untold history and has a little singing in it and spoken word. And here we go.
Speaker 3:Untold history. It will never rob us of our vitality. Untold history, in spite of the hate. Who can we choose to be? They say history is written by those in power, just one way of remembering those fateful hours, like the Twin Towers and nature's hurricane showers. But still we cower from the truth that's so plain to see. And yet we flee, maybe because it's easy, but I'd assert it's ridiculous. Ludicrous, preposterous, suspicious Media's owned by a handful of people treating us like sheeple while they preach lies from their steeple. No, no, no, no, no. What about the history untold? So get ready to unfold that gray matter in your brain. While our paradigms. We untrain that gray matter in your brain. While our paradigms, we untrain Untold history. It will never rob us of our vitality. Untold history, in spite of the hate. Who can we choose to be?
Speaker 3:No, I won't waste my time being pissed at my oppressor. I'm like a lion in a cage, but I won't be the aggressor. I'll bring people together, not just rant about corruption. Of love and peace, I will be a function. Yeah, of love and peace. I will be a function Of love and peace. I will be a function Of love and peace. I will be a function.
Speaker 3:The issues are complex, but the solutions, simple. One treat To thyself always be true. Humanity can come back together and unite. We can look back at history and choose to make it right, replace the disastrous timeline with a future that is divine, one where all people and beings of the universes choose to see ourselves as one. Yeah, this is the history I will tell my children.
Speaker 3:We chose to set down our weapons, our opinions, our news feeds, our right to be right, weapons our opinions, our news feeds our right to be right, and instead planted seeds of peace. And no, peace isn't kumbaya all the time. Peace is a place to choose to be from. Peace means we might still fight and get angry, and we still choose to solve things with our words and non-violence. To solve things with our words and nonviolence. It doesn't mean we always get along. Let me be clear. So, knowing that truth comes from peaceful communication, we planted seeds of peace and together we will sing History untold. Join me, remove all your blindfolds. Untold history we are the creators of our reality. Untold history In the presence of real love. In the presence of real love, in the presence of real, real love, what could humanity be?
Speaker 4:thank you oh nice we're plotting, but we don't really want noise on top of what that? What that was? Oh my gosh. Thank you for that. That's like there's.
Speaker 3:That's just a reminder to be in check if you want an amazing band from colorado, it's called the reminders. Oh, they're actually called their husband and wife and I was just talking about them, so I'm just going to throw them out there and the same energy of singing and spoken word. They're called the Reminders. They're amazing.
Speaker 2:Love it. That was awesome. I love that. This is very deep. Before we wrap up, is there anything else you want? Oh, you know what. Actually, I did have a question. One last question yeah, what is synchronicity to you?
Speaker 3:I mean being at the right place at the right time is one that just came to mind, but really it's um, she just said it it's like it's a reminder of something. This this is my belief, so I'll just dive right in. It's a reminder of something we already knew. It could also be a message. That's from what you could call the great beyond.
Speaker 3:Whatever belief system you're in, I do a lot with dreams and, um, tiana, who I mentioned earlier, tiana galgano, and I, uh, have a few books about intentional dream programming and also waking dreams.
Speaker 3:So that means, just right now, the, the waking part of dream, and some perspectives that we're in a dream right now.
Speaker 3:And, um, you can like intentionally call about those synchronicities too, as you just simply ask the question like what is my true heart's desire?
Speaker 3:And sometimes the answer is confronting and it means, like the job you're in it's making the ways to get out of it doesn't mean you should quit tomorrow, but, like you know, then you're going to start having more synchronicity because the universe is like, oh cool, they're actually interested in like being aligned with, why they they are on earth and, um, you'll just start to see those conversations pop up, this like we just there's several in this conversation today um, the numbers, the um, the memories from the past, the things that are be reckoning here to like heal and forgive, and yeah. So synchronicity, I also see it as like simply just alignment, kind of like when the people had to set their watches back. I'm seeing in my mind's eye right now like a clock and alignment with the clock, and so when people used to have to like line up their clocks and all together. Now we're lucky to have like generally the same time with the satellites, but yeah, something with that, just like being in alignment with whatever your source is.
Speaker 2:I love that, thank you. Thank you Before we wrap up, I'll have all of your information in our bio so people can find you. But for any listeners, do you want to just throw somewhere out there which is Merle Doe, renee or Merle Doe?
Speaker 3:Renee Jones. So I was telling them before we started that my birth name, merle, means female deer, so that's where I got my creative and spirit name, which is Doe or Doe Renee. Renee means rebirth in French, so standing for Renaissance of Humanity, which is what Renee means, and you can just look up Doe R-E-N-E-E and find me anywhere, find my pages that way. Like I mentioned at the beginning, I'm a conscious publisher helping people transmute their stories into power with books, audiobooks and more. And also I'm a part of a lot of awesome groups out in the world Shout out to level up coworking creation center, as well as pediatric holistic wellness. Um, which is a company I'm a part of as well, helping people with different abilities. Um, and yeah, just really, if you feel inspired to connect, I'm just a message away and just here to serve people on their journey.
Speaker 3:I know for me it started with a suicide that I mentioned and just realizing that I could help myself heal through writing, and that's how I turned. My first book was through the grief of that loss. I turned my first book was through the grief of that loss and just from then I never looked back of like okay, that perfect balance of like, go, go, go, do, do, do and then B, b, b, chill, chill, chill. So yeah, appreciate you all, and especially to any moms out there who feel overwhelmed, I'm here for you. Just message me and reach out.
Speaker 4:We'll reach back out to you too, Thank you.
Speaker 1:Lou. Well, okay, I guess that was my cue In here. I thought Kevin was going to do both intro and outro. I guess not, I'll be the outro person. Very good, okay. Well, thank you everyone for joining us. Doronay, I'm going gonna just shorten it to dorenay because I just love your name, yeah, and say thank you very much. Very inspiring words, stories love the poem. It was very inspirational for me and I'm sure, for both kevin and nancy and our listeners as well. I'm sure they all enjoyed it. We look um forward to all of you, our listeners, joining us on our next episode and, as Kevin mentioned, you can find information on our guests today in the bio for this episode. Again, thank you all for listening to today's episode. Bye for now.