Clean Your F*cking House B*tch
Our minds are like houses. When they're new, they're empty. As we live our lives we acquire treasures that eventually turn into shit that creates clutter. Some of this stuff is useful, while some of it is simply junk which just creates obstacles for us. What if we could eliminate the nonsense we don't need, and create more room for useful things? Join us on this podcast where we discuss removing what we don't need, implementing beneficial changes to our minds, bodies and souls, to create a life of abundance and fulfillment.
Clean Your F*cking House B*tch
Ep. 100 - Embracing the Unknown
What if your greatest superpower isn't knowing everything, but rather staying grounded when nothing makes sense? That's the profound question we tackle in this episode as we explore how to navigate our rapidly changing world without losing our minds in the process.
The conversation begins with an exploration of technological adaptation—particularly artificial intelligence and tools like ChatGPT—and how these innovations create an ever-widening divide between those who embrace change and those who resist it. Just as the internet and mobile devices transformed society, AI represents another evolutionary leap that many approach with trepidation rather than curiosity. We dig into why fear of the unknown prevents people from accessing powerful tools that could actually improve their lives, and how this mirrors generational divides seen with previous technological revolutions.
The most powerful moment comes when discussing anxiety in uncertain times. When overwhelmed by change, technology, or existential questions, sometimes the most calming realization is acknowledging how little we actually know. As Kevin puts it: "Whenever I'm feeling anxious or stressed out... I'm just like: hold on, what the fuck even am I? Who am I? What is this? You don't know." This perspective shift—recognizing the fundamental mystery of existence—can paradoxically bring great comfort when facing everyday stresses.
We ultimately circle back to the importance of being present and controlling what you can control. In a world where change happens at an ever-accelerating pace, with information overload and unpredictable futures, perhaps the greatest skill is simply staying grounded in the moment. Focus on what's directly in front of you—the choices you're making right now—and let go of the rest.
Ready to transform how you handle life's constant changes? Listen now and discover how cleaning your mental house might be the most important cleaning you ever do. Share your thoughts on how you manage technological change in your life, and don't forget to subscribe for more raw, unfiltered conversations about navigating modern existence.
Hello and welcome to Clean your Fucking House Bitch with Nancy, kevin and Lou. In our program we get real about the challenges of life and living. Your mind is the most powerful tool you have to ensure you are on your desired path for success and satisfaction. Yet from the day you are born, you gradually and subconsciously fill it with tons of useless shit that gets in your way. Why is that? How can you clean that mess up?
Speaker 2:We'll show you how. Get ready to clean your fucking house. Trying to figure out what we were going to talk about, and then I just sprung the record button on everybody and we were shooting things back and forth and I think what came to mind, like as you guys were kind of chatting just now is the ability to adapt to change and things continue in life to evolve, and I think it's almost like a superpower to be able to just kind of stay grounded and keep your head down, in the sense of being able to identify the things that you have control over in your life, the things that serve you well, that help you vibe high, all while trying to pay attention to how the world is changing around you and identifying new ways to work on things or incorporate different technologies into your life that can help serve you also. So I thought that came to mind and I was like I know both of you can definitely run with that, and the topic came up about like chat, gpt and AI.
Speaker 2:And I actually saw a video, nancy, I think it was your conversation, like what you were talking about reminded me of it, but it was a guy.
Speaker 2:He's doing some type of like a TED talk thing or something, and he was talking about artificial intelligence and his point was that it's going to even further separate people like that are go-getters and want to learn and want to utilize it versus other people that are kind of like you know, I don't want anything to do with it Similar to probably how the internet was for certain people of different generations when that was created. Right, it wasn't looked at as a tool in the beginning. For a lot of people it was just just like there. This is kind of like a lot of people are using chat, gpt, like google, right, just searching or asking questions, which I think is a good way to kind of get your feet wet, but I don't know what, what the limits even are with it. Like, I use it for meetings at work and transcribes and documents everything you know. It was super helpful for me as I was going through different quarterly projects.
Speaker 3:I think there are no limits, right, but it's about what you said being able to be open to it, to embrace it, to feel like you can experiment or explore. It doesn't have to make or break you, it just is a thing that we need to include as we evolve.
Speaker 2:And how does one handle the fear that might come up for people with it like being a chall, being a challenger and adversary like to you.
Speaker 3:Look, fear is that thing Like we talk about this all the time, right that you have. I hate those words that came out. You don't have to do anything. But what helps, what helps, what helps when you're afraid of something is to face it. Whether you just look it in the eye or you take one small step towards it, or you figure out an action that reduces or interrupts whatever the the situation is that creates that fear or anxiety is to face it. And it's the same with this. I think that it does cause people fear because there's unknown, but also it can bring ease, it can help. It can it? There's. You have to do the full pros and cons and really look at both sides and not just let fear get in the way.
Speaker 2:I love that you say, um, like embrace it right, like lean into it. I was having a conversation earlier this week and I was talking about how like our moods can shift, like seemingly for no reason, and I caught my. I don't know if I shared this story already before, but I caught myself driving to work and I was feeling kind of like anxious. And then I started thinking about it. I'm trying to like, why, why am I feeling anxious? Like I'm having good days mostly every day, right? Why the fuck am I anxious? And then I had this epiphany of like, like, lean into it, like don't analyze it and try to find it, but just embrace it, let it flow through you, accept that you're.
Speaker 2:And for me, what was helpful was like I accepted that, like today is just that day. I'm just feeling this way and it's not defining my future or my life. I'm not an anxious person. Like it doesn't have to be any of that. It's just like here I am in this moment I feel a bit anxious. Cool, I'm going to get to work, I'm going to do the same shit I would have done if I didn't feel anxious, right. And then it just kind of like went away. It was like a cloud, that kind of like hovered over me for a little bit and then I just let it go and then it left and I felt so much better.
Speaker 4:When you were hiring, when you were sharing earlier about you're comparing, say, the current AI trend with the internet trend from before. I think there's also a little bit of a perhaps a mini trend in between there and that's the whole mobile device, oh yeah, sure, um, oh yeah aspect. And the thing is I'm, I, I agree there's, say a bit, that's actually a really good point, dude.
Speaker 2:My dad was like not looking to get a smart device ever, but like everything changed, right yeah.
Speaker 4:My mom wants one, but she just has that fear of learning it. But she also does not have a laptop or computer. She does not know Internet, she knows none of that of. Strikes me is that a couple things. One, I think the fear grows with each major technological trend that comes along in those people that fail to adopt or embrace them when they do come along. So so of course now she's even more removed and more anxious and more fearful, even though we say well, no, well, no, you know, with technology they actually get easier. So even the mobile devices now are much easier to work with than the ones that first came out. But on the flip side there's, boy, so many, so many dimensions to this, like I also think.
Speaker 4:Number two is the divide between haves and have-nots, because not everyone can afford a laptop or computer or mobile device or chat gpt subscription. You know there's any, those who even may want to want to embrace it and can't and may do on a limited basis, school or otherwise, something like that. So it creates maybe, uh, maybe, and I don't. It's not like I'm trying to turn this whole show political or anything like that, it's just um kind of an observation, uh. And then the other thing is the whole fear, recall with ai. I don't know if this fear came up with Internet. It may have I think it did but to a much smaller degree is oh, this one now is closer to the whole Terminator idea that technology may take over the world. And I kind of chuckled a little bit when I heard a little bit of that with Internet, because I think it did come up a little bit, but it was more in the context of Internet should make us all smarter or something like that.
Speaker 3:And of course, we know that didn't really happen, but this one is, I think, so.
Speaker 2:It made information accessible, which allowed people to make decisions and choices and take action more easily. So I think that does make us smarter.
Speaker 3:I think it also right if you're just on facebook shit talking like that might not, that's not smarter, but I've.
Speaker 2:I don't the the shit that I've researched and learned about and gotten into and become passionate about the things that have like kind of shaped and framed my worldview. If I didn't have access to the information like I, I just don't know how I would have ever been able to access the information that I've learned, you know.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and I well, I think it's. One thing is that it has brought more information to all of us. Certainly now, unfortunately, like probably anything in life, it's kind of hard to think of an example where this hasn't occurred, but there's opportunists who take advantage of things like that. So there's propaganda, misinformation, disinformation, and it's hard to know what it is. Yeah, um, so then folks who aren't open to simply, as Nancy, kind of shared, absorbing it and taking it all in and making maybe an informed decision is where it has its challenge, because then some people might just believe anything they read or hear, which is kind of. I always find that baffling because I'm like well, does that? That gets us back to our whole conversation on beliefs, because if some folks are willing to believe whatever they see, read or hear, well, then how do they manage the conflict when two opposing messages are presented? So it's got to fall in line.
Speaker 2:I think a lot of people will look for Things that support their beliefs.
Speaker 4:Yeah, their pre-existing beliefs? Yeah, I would hope so, like like you shared that. There's so much information out there, though, that you know folks would be at least open to hearing different, different views or different information or whatnot, but you know, look, you ever look into flat earth oh, yeah, yeah, uh, not in a lot of detail, but yeah, yeah, uh-huh yeah and yeah, and of course you know my beliefs are on one side of that globe versus the other.
Speaker 2:But um, get it, I think it just depends, like for me, it's trying to just stay in tune with how things are serving you. You know what I mean. Like you can have different, like you can have a different opinion. You can have a completely different opinion on what this entire existence is, but you can still be okay with other people as long as you can accept that they're not. They might not be on the same page as you in different areas, but then you might have some common passion that you're very aligned on. That's very, you know, important.
Speaker 4:Yeah, a few things I do. I do truly believe, though some things are black and white, like one plus one, to me will always be two. I don't think anyone can change my mind about that. I do think there's other things in life that are also like that. Now, without a lot of proof, it's hard, or or the only way someone could be themselves convinced is actually be in a situation like who killed JFK, and we'd have to actually time travel, go there and try to figure that stuff out. But I think bringing this full circle.
Speaker 4:Well, let me just add. Let me just add one more comment, because there was really a connection here. Bringing this all full circle to. Our initial reason for this whole conversation was about change and embracing change and being open to change, and that's why sometimes I'm conflicted, although I kind of feel like I'm 50-50 on many topics, many things, because I just don't know what I don't know and I don't like to say I'm 100% or 0%, because I just don't know. But you know, certainly I have strong beliefs, like anyone. But then I'm like well, is AI helping people to embrace change or adopt change, in particular that concept, since that came up easier, quicker, or is it making it harder? Just kind of another thing where I'm sort of like 50 50. It seems like there's arguments on both sides. Anyway, that's where my very long winded explanation kind of brought us back to the initial topic.
Speaker 3:That's up to the person. Those people exist like doubters, you know, like if you want to believe and you can take the information that you have and kind of disseminate what you have and decide how it impacts you, you can move forward. If you're a doubter and a naysayer, you're going to pull everything apart all the time and challenge it and those people AI isn't going to change them, for whatever reason they're there.
Speaker 4:Well, education comes into the mix as well, and I don't really know where we stand currently, not just in our country but in the world in general, when it comes to education. It kind of feels in many ways like our educational system has not improved or maybe it was always never good to begin with. Again, just you know we, just people, need to be more knowledgeable. But then that kind of brings back the whole. Well, knowledge is information, and if you can't prove the information.
Speaker 2:how do you ever get there? It's like a vicious cycle. You have my mind spinning, dude, like I am going crazy in my head on things, okay. And now I'm like this has happened to me many times, like I've often been in the position of really analyzing, trying to figure out life, like all the stuff, right. But then I just came back to what I always do and I'm like just stay grounded and just move forward like I don't I agree, like I don't 100 believe in anything. I it's hard to you talk about Terminator and then all the shit in that movie. When we were watching and when it came out like cool, like sci-fi, crazy things, the shit came to fruition. It's insane, right.
Speaker 3:It didn't come from nowhere. Those ideas were already alive out there. It didn't come from nowhere. Those ideas were already alive out there. It didn't come from nowhere, right and it's just.
Speaker 4:It's still very hard to believe, like the aspect of self. What is it called satience? I think is the word sentience. Sentience, self, self-awareness is that what that means?
Speaker 3:okay, yeah what's the movie about the aliens? That they brought in the german scientist because he actually had real research that contributed to the movie that spielberg made was it back in the 70s, 80s? Yeah, older movie yeah, it was one of the originals anyway, and so there was truth. There was knowledge and evidence-based material built into that too. Like spielberg, if it was. Spielberg didn't just go out and make a movie about what sounded cool. He actually brought knowledge to the foundation of what this was, and people were highly engaged.
Speaker 2:I do think. Going back to your point about the educational system, academics, I think a lot of things are dumbed down. Definitely right, maybe, whether it's intentional or not, but like growing up, what were we taught about the pyramids the whole time, like how they were built and stuff, and then you learn about them and it's like that doesn't add up at all. Right, yeah, you've ever. And then they just come out with this other new discovery of what they were able to scan with light or under the pyramids. I don't know if you guys saw that right, I did see that and like graham hancock.
Speaker 2:They, they shit all over him with all his research that he's done and now that's like proving that he was right, like and so you never, I don't know, you just never fucking know. So I just kind of pick and choose what resonates with me to kind of like create my view of the world. And if someone's like no, you're fucking crazy, then tell me what this is, tell me what any of this is or means, and you can't. Yeah, you don't fucking know how crazy we, how insane is it. Whenever I'm feeling like anxious or like bogged down or like stressed out, or I'm upset about something I did, or I'm not doing good enough in this or that, whatever, I'm just like hold on, like what the fuck even am? Who am I? What is this?
Speaker 4:you don't know, and it's to me that's very calming like I have to say that's the key theme or key piece of uh and for takeaway for this episode is what kevin just said right there whenever you're feeling anxious, whenever you're feeling over whatever, calm the fuck down just just remember that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love that. You don't know what the fuck this is, yeah, yeah, going back to like the fear step back and a lot of people are afraid of death, right like that's scary, but it's not, it's glorious, it's like you, finally, are going to get maybe a step ahead of learning what this existence is.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but you're mindfully ready for that, and people who aren't ready for that fear it a little bit because they're still figuring it out For sure.
Speaker 4:And you know and that brings up a good point is sometimes it gets hard or challenging for people who are have more awareness, and certainly there's degrees of awareness. You know everyone I don't like. Maybe that's one of life's goals is become fully aware. I don't know. I mean that'd be a cool one, but I think you can, like you said, you don't know.
Speaker 2:We don't know what we don't know and we and we can't repeat, we can't know a historical event without actually being there for all the truth about it. So yeah, we go by what stories in schools or whatever is going to be completely different than what actually happened. But then it also shifts because of perception and how we perceive. We, the three of us, could literally be involved in the same exact situation and go write about it and have completely different fucking stories, you know you're completely right, we observe things differently, you know you're.
Speaker 4:And your comment about education, I mean, I think, I think, like any institution, though there certainly could be, say, bad actors, good actors and bad actors, but I think, with that one in particular, folks, teachers in general, at least the ones I've had, I think just go by what they were either told or taught, or here's your lesson plan and this is how you go. Which is why I almost get back to the math world, because, again, in the math world, that's a little harder to fuck up. You know you have it's a man-made, created system anyway, so you can't argue with you. Know, someone says the rule of a math equation, one plus one is two and that's it. You can't say, well, you're wrong, well, no, because it's my rule, I made it up, and if I'm going to call it math, it's my thing, you can call your thing something else.
Speaker 3:Lou have you. So this I experienced with my own child in middle school math and I hear parents today talking about this. The way we did math any one of us in our years and the way we were taught to do math is different now and they come to the same answers. So what is the truth? The truth can vary and there isn't just one way to two.
Speaker 4:Well, no, no, the answer is the same, but you're talking about the way to get to the answer. Those are two different things I'm saying one plus one is two, if someone wants to say let's take one and add four, then subtract three. Well, that's a completely different story, and I agree, though, that this way, what is it common core?
Speaker 2:when that came along, and whatever else I don even, I don't even know that I believe like I think one and one is two. I think math is a very good example. But, like, as you start looking into, like quantum physics, physics, right then, like things that we're absolutely sure about, start to break down and you begin to question things because things aren't behaving in the way that you would expect right.
Speaker 4:So even with math, which again I think is a solid example, like people are questioning the truth behind it well, maybe they're questioning certain types of math versus others, like certainly when you get to calculus and statistics, where it deals with random variation, things like that, by virtue of the very definition of, you know, randomness, that brings about questions, but it is. I mean, it is not to really go too far down that path. You know any subject in general and again getting back to something like history is all we're going by is what information was passed on to us, I just so. Then brings up again the whole question of change. You know, adopting the change, do you go after more information? Do you kind of dig in with what you've got and find more to support it?
Speaker 3:Step back, you accept what's there and take a look around.
Speaker 4:Then you realize there's no way in our lifetimes we could possibly get to know everything, become fully self-aware, and that in and of itself almost creates a bit of anxiousness.
Speaker 3:That's why I think we always hear this idea then to be present, idea then to be present. Because if, if you're thinking about the future and what am I not aware of? What should I be aware of? What could I have done differently in my past? You're in all these places that create anxiety, but if you can just be present, you're in the moment of living. Whatever those choices are right, then, what sweatshirt should I pull over? You know my head today and what do I want to do next? That's all we can. You know, I was at dinner with some people last night and we got off on a topic that we shouldn't have, probably politically connected, like no, no. And a friend with us said, no, we let it go, Put it aside. What we can choose, what's in our circle of control, and I could choose if I want the margarita with salt on the rim or not, and if I'm going to drink it and enjoy it, or if I want to be anxious about stupid shit that people say Paris on China.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so let it go and just be in the moment, and then we all had a good time.
Speaker 4:No, that's the best way to go about it. Definitely we all had a good time. No, that's the best way to go about it, definitely, oh boy, okay. Well, this was quite an interesting conversation, wasn't it? We started off with a topic of accepting change, adopting change, embracing change and knowing that right now we're in a world where change is occurring at ever increasing and ever increasing pace.
Speaker 4:And when you think about it, when was the Internet? Ninety or 80, 70, something like that Seventies, 80s, and then mobile devices, early 2000s, maybe a little bit before that, and then boom, I mean we are just going so quick. Wow, I mean lots of things to think about. You know, again I I think I'm going to just repeat what Kevin said One of the best things to probably do and Nancy as well, because I thought that was a good tidbit is, with all this stuff around us, all this information, all this change, just take a step back, calm yourself down, know that you can only control what you can control and make decisions for yourself, nothing else. Probably a good one-two punch or a good one-two step to go about it, and hopefully that'll make your day a lot less stressful. Anyway, interesting topic. I hope everyone enjoyed it. We look forward to you joining us on our next episode. Bye for now.